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- WIth at least three lenses (21mm/3.2, Limited 31mm, 40mm/2.8)
you can put a Pentax in the pocket of a big jacket. You cannot think of doing it with Canons and Nikons, unless you disassemble the lens, which sounds unpractical to me
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Pentax's Anti shake is a killer feature (I own a Sony a100 and had Minolta cameras w/ anitahke bfore this camera). This feature is the biggest reason to buy a Pentax (or Sony). This feature is so good that most of us who have it won't buy a camera w/o it.
- The K10 has a slow AF system and doesn't match Canon and Nikon for image quality when shooting jpg's which is what most people are using. The nonsense about how most DSLR users shoot only in RAW is a falsehood
- I own the camera. You will not be able to see any difference in JPEG settings between any camera and the k10d till over a 100 percent crop. Also, the "softness" leaves out all those nasty halos lower-level nikons and canons have. Remember the d200? Has the same "problem" the k10d has, it protects detail.
- For that matter, Phil didn't bother changing to the "bright" setting that he tested the oh so sharp k100d on. If you want Canon halos out of the Pentax simply switch modes.
- Seems a whole lot of you are pretty pigheaded and slow to understand all this.
- Canon and Nikon have a great range of lenses but dear me, have you seen the price of the things?
- Could you tell me the Image Stabilized lenses, Canon or Nikon, at a price the amateur shooting in JPEG can afford?
- I don't have a D80, but I did have the K10 and 30D at the same time and in low light (indoors, at night, normal to dim lighting) the 30D was much, much faster than the K10
- I don't have a D80, but I did have the K10 and 30D at the same time and in low light (indoors, at night, normal to dim lighting) the 30D was much, much faster than the K10
From what I've read of the Pentax AF the K10 has the same slow lowlight AF problem that has plagued all the Pentax DSLRs.
The XTi and D80 both have better AF systems...
- ...I don't always agree with Phil's camera review conclusions but he's usually right when comes to comparisons of image quality. His IQ ratings for the XTi, D80, Alpha and K10D on a scale of 1 to 10 are as follows:
Canon XTi - 8.5
Nikon D80 - 8.0
SONY A100 - 8.0
Pentax K10D - 7.5
- Phil specifically mentioned in his K10 review that he saw MORE DETAIL in the K10 RAW image than the D80
- "Removing the camera's built-in image processor and instead processing using a standard converter (in this case Adobe Camera RAW) we see the K10D's true colors, clear crisp images with lots of detail and sharp edges. Indeed there are several parts of the image which look more detailed than the D80."
- The K10D jpgs are excellent, Pentax have just done things differently to other manufacturers, there's more texture detail and less edge sharpness than the average. Anyway, it's been proven by owners in the Pentax forum that if Bright mode is selected rather than Normal then the jpgs are just as sharp as anyone else's as judged in the traditional edge sharpened manner.
- As explained by a Pentax engineer during an interview, the K10D's "Bright" mode is the same as the K100D's "Bright" mode, and Phil was very impressed with the K100D's Bright mode in his K100D review. The only difference is that Bright mode is the default on the K100D, while not the default on the K10D.
- Switching the K10D from "Natural" mode to "Bright" mode for shooting Jpeg is not rocket science, and does not take time away from family, etc.
- Not to make excuses, but I always shoot raw. Running it through a raw converter at default settings doesn't take much time when you don't have time to do all the tweaking you want.
- I used to shoot jpegs and was happy with them on the camera I use, but decided that having the versatility of raw on all shots was worth the inconvenience, because often very informal snaps become favorites.
- I see the four differentiators that the Pentax offers as:
1. Some cool modes and operation, like a sensitivity (ISO) priority automatic and hyper program modes.
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A great big bright viewfinder
3. The weather proofing seals
4. Image stabilization